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"I'll be positioned in the same seat by 2027," the Prime Minister remarked, noting that if the conversation was successful, he might welcome us into Downing Street for a follow-up chat next year.
For a PM, there's never truly break for those in the top job. Shortly before our chat started, Sir Keir had been speaking with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and trying to decipher precisely had occurred in Venezuela, where his key political chum, US President Donald Trump, had recently attacked and captured its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
Once our interview, which was far more extended than usual, had ended, Maduro had been charged in New York.
But as the year starts, the Prime Minister appears to have had a kind of a revitalisation. Perhaps even just a bit of a rest with the family at Chequers, the prime minister's rural getaway.
This appeared to have left him in a more positive mood than at the sluggish end of 2025, a terrible political year for him.
But are he and his colleagues kidding themselves if they think his fortunes are poised to improve?
The uncomfortable reality for the leader is that a significant number of his colleagues believe he's not very good at his job. Some of them would sooner take a risk and oust him sooner rather than later.
However Sir Keir was dismissing such talk in the interview on Saturday morning.
Multiple times he stated he'd be "judged at the general election", maintaining nobody would remove his five-year mandate from him – despite the fact that the optimal path of halting Nigel Farage and Reform UK entering No 10 could be for Labour to switch leader.
"We are in the struggle of our lifetime and I plan to guide the party," he declared.
The challenge for the PM is that he will be judged far sooner than then – in a mega set of elections in May throughout the UK. He attempted to protest, maybe excessively, that they are about who runs councils, and who runs the devolved administrations in Holyrood or Cardiff – and not about Westminster.
True – up to a point. But although he may be reluctant to admit it, No 10 will be held accountable by those elections too.
Despite this, Sir Keir implying that there were no circumstances under which he would walk away, even if a his MPs ran against him for the job, if those elections be disastrous for Labour.
He attempted to account for his low poll ratings by saying the electorate was reasonably impatient for things to change. He sought to persuade the interviewer, and the nation, that the coming months would be different.
The economy would improve in the face of rising unemployment, he argued, when policies the administration enacted during their initial choppy year began to bear fruit.
His central message is that this year the country will "turn the corner".
The prime minister may have communicated with greater vigour than observed from him for a some time – more relaxed, perhaps, with a longer slot to talk.
However, in spite of encountering pressure from various quarters for a bolder approach, with much more political vision, more urgency, more pace and more immediacy, his explanations were well-known ones.
When he finds himself in considerable political difficulty, does he need a change of tack?
No government, and certainly not one that has been struggling in the polls for many months, gets everything its own way.
Sir Keir's problems are not only because governing is challenging, but because he and his colleagues have faltered, even in the last few weeks.
The PM told me that he was sorry for saying he was "delighted" to see the return of the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK after an backlash when comments he'd previously made – including calls for Zionists and police to be killed – came to light.
Sir Keir blamed "the system" for failing to identify what the activist had said before – a fancier way of saying it wasn't his responsibility.
And he is facing clear political dangers as the year unfolds. His close relationship with the US president acquires a new complication after Trump's intervention on Venezuela.
Based on years of interviewing Sir Keir Starmer, a ex- human rights lawyer who opposed the war in Iraq, over his career, the idea he would be at ease with this kind of intervention seems far-fetched.
He asserted he was a "lifelong champion of international law" but the public "simply haven't got the full picture at the moment".
Critics called for him to denounce it prior to the interview. And the government is likely to face increased demands to give an explicit view in Parliament in the near future.
There has also consistently been bubbling tension in the Labour ranks to reverse or renegotiate some of the results of Brexit.
The PM disputes he's doing that, but his new specific plan to move closer with the single market – the huge economic European trading zone – will probably provoke howls that he is reneging on his vow never to try to undo the results that stemmed from Brexit.
A decision to integrate into more of the single market will satisfy some on his side of the party, but it is easy fodder for Reform and the Conservatives to
Maya Chen is an HR consultant with over 10 years of experience in performance management and organizational development.